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KLR In the 2011 Baja 1000. Options
solorider40
Posted: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:34:20 AM
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I'm considering putting a team together and running my KLR650 in the 2011 Baja 1000.I know the 450's are lighter and better bikes, but its more of a challenge to us and we're wanting to prove the worthiness and versatility of the KLR.
Without any sacasim, can I get some tips and advice from some of the veteran riders and crews out there?
solorider40
Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:14:57 AM
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Does anyone who races frequent this message board?
San Felipe Bob
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:12:53 PM

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I'm not sure I qualify as a "current" racer.
Here are some things to keep in mind so you don't lose your head.

1) Plan on being passed by Trophy trucks............ Imagine going 5 mph in the middle of a freeway during a blizzard with icy roads and being passed by out of control 18 wheelers going 80 mph with out brakes around blind corners.

Be careful!
After the first Vehicle passes you... Do not I REPEAT!!!! DO NOT GET BACK ON THE COURSE!!!! Ride just off to the side and stay alive.......

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QTRacing
Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:17:42 AM
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I am putting together a team to do a similar thing. We are considering the KTM 690 Enduro R as our bike. Planning to pre-run the course this year to see how tough we really are, (bunch of single track riders from the north woods!) with the intention of racing in 2011. We are just in the initial phases of planning, but where considering the 690 over the 450 because of sustained speed capability, fuel injection (assume better MPG?) and durability. We have a pretty well equipped crew in both equipment, sponsorship and basic talent, but no real off-road race experience (bunch of retired road racers. We are more than open to any advice on vehicle choice, equipment to bring, the whole process.
TW
Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:16:26 AM
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Bob gave you very sound advice. Go to www.mag7race.com and under racing info is a very good write up on racing the Baja and what to expect. If you don't race a Honda you can do your own pits or use Mag 7 or Baja Pits for pit service. The advantage of riding a Honda is spare parts. Otherwise bring your own. Usually it means spare wheels or at least tires and tubes. If your not trying to win and not on the gas a lot you can probably make it on the same set of tires if they are good off road racing tires. When I raced the Dunlap 139 front and 695 rear were the best, hard side cases. To keep from getting flats you may want to use a moose tube. Prerunning is essential to knowing where your going. If you don't know Baja I strongly suggest a prerun. Also your chase crew needs to know the access roads to the race course in case youy break. Get race radio and plug in the weatherman and BFG channels.
TW
Posted: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:29:29 AM
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You will need good lights. Have your stator rewound for more power. Stock lights are not good racing lights you sould check out Baja Designs and others. You should use a desert gas tank for more gas. Carry a backpack with stuff in case you break and have to spent the night. It can rain and get very cold. Carry large trash bags and large tie wraps. You can tape the tie wraps to the front fender. Both of you say your doing the 2011 1000. It will probably be a loop race since this year it goes to La Paz. If you can come out to this years race or the 500 and hang around Ensenada to get the feel, talk to some bike guys. Go to the riders meeting. On the loop race the toughest part is usually the start and last section to and from Ojos and of course the whoops south of San Felipe.
TW
Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:06:13 PM
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I just looked at the specs on the KLR650 and it has a 5 to 6 gallon tank depending on year and the electrical system is 238 watts so you should be good to go in those two areas. Desert tanks are usually in the 4 gallon range. The 17 inch rear tire is not too common in the desert. Older Honda XRs had them. 18 is very common.
Baja 2007
Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:50:32 AM
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i would highly suggest that you don't ride the klr650 in the 1000. i rode a xr650r in the 2007 baja 500 and 1000. that weighs in around 350lbs and you feel every ounce of it. especially in the rock and silt. i would suspect that the klr would have a hard time in silt due to weight and nimbleness (or lack of) of it. there are more rocks than you would believe. we did it with a two man riding team and a chase truck. we finished 1296 miles in 51 or 52 hours. key points: prerun and have good lights. we were only able to prerun the first two sections, but it helped tremendously. our times were probably twice as fast than in areas we didn't prerun. lights - spend the $800-$900 and get a good headlight. don't rely on the stocker. we paid $700 for an HID and it sucked. go with the two 8" round halogen. the single HID was not good. it didn't reach far enough and picked up every speck of dust in the sky. additionally i bought one for my helmet. i never used it but my brother did and he said it worked better than the HID that was on the bike. hand guards would have been nice and for some dumb reason we didn't put them on. make sure you have plenty of air filters and they are oiled well. in the 500 we didn't oil them properly and dirt got in and killed the bike. middle of the night and in the middle of a valley. luckily there were some really nice mexicans and they helped me push my bike up the hill and went and got a pickup truck and took me back to the finish line. i gave them like $60 and they were more than happy. when we rebuilt the engine, i broke it down myself and sent the head and cylinder away to have it fixed. another $800. somehow through drunken bike maintence, that thing ended up being a monster. not a single issue on the 1000. new air filter every 200 miles. also, depending on how many riders you have, don't do sections more than 300 miles. 200 are about ideal. 300 miles after a 200 mile section hours before was nearly impossible. you'll loose all of your speed. you won't be doing 100mph, ever. unless you're a pro. 75mph on unfamiliar terrain is probably the most you're going to eek out and even that won't happen often. make sure you have good tires. one tire change was sufficient for us. also, buy heavy duty tubes. they feel like they weigh 5 pounds each, but they work. in addition, put slim in your tubes to further help you out. we pitted with mag 7. they did a good job and no complaints. hopes this helps. you'll have an awesome time. don't try to win it, try to finish it.
kay
Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:20:57 PM
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The KLR will do just fine if you are used to it and not looking to come 1st, I owned 2 klr's in the past, its not much different than xr650l, I raced 2010 baja 250 on xr650r, while I did the prerunning on the xr650l and the 650r, in my opinion, the 650l would have done better than the R, the weight got its advantages and disadvantages, and after all its a matter of prefrence, most racers prefer lighter bikes, because most of them came from 2 strokes bikes, while enduro riders used to heavier bikes and know how to deal with them, I am putting together a team for the 2010 1000, contact me if u need any help or advise.
BajaBoundMoto
Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:35:56 AM
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QTRacing wrote:
Planning to pre-run the course this year to see...but where considering the 690 over the 450 because of sustained speed capability....open to any advice on vehicle choice, equipment to bring, the whole process.


You'll find the '10 course far smoother than the '11 course. 2010 may be a decent 690 course, but in reality an xr650R or 450x would be the best choices. It only makes sense to go with common brands, you'll see those Hondas all over Baja. Next good bet would be a 450KTM. If you show up with a 690 you better have all your bases covered 'cause you'll be the only one with one of those bikes.
I ran the Factory BMW Germany HP2 team for 7 of these big races. We were of course on an odd bike, but we also had as many spares as Team Honda including 25 sets of race ready wheels, that's having bases covered.
Don't plan on using the "sustained speed capability" of your 690, you'd be better off on a 450cc. I've put a 125cc 2-stroke into 10th OverAll bike in a 1000 to La Paz, and that only went ~75 mph. I've also raced Factory Team Honda 450X's in '07-'08 finishing 2nd OverAll (both years) and those trick Team bikes only went ~92.
High top speed is not going to help you like you might be thinking.

solorider40 wrote:
putting a team together and running my KLR650 in the 2011 Baja 1000...wanting to prove the worthiness and versatility of the KLR...veteran riders and crews out there?


Riding a KLR650 in a "loop" 1000 is asking to not finish. If your goal is to finish it only makes sense to ride a bike that will be easy to prepare, easy to ride, reliable, handle well, and easy to locate parts for.
Like I said above, you'd be the only entry on a KLR, guaranteed. IF you were to break a part (radiator, wheel, whatever) you better have a spare. if you break anything on a 450x the odds of you finding a replacement (before the race, during race, from moto or car teams) is very good odds.

We'll be riding (supported) the basic route of the 2010 course to La Paz in late September and again in October.
It will be a good chance for new Baja racers to see the route, terrain, and start putting the pieces of the puzzle together.
We also do Baja training rides in Baja with Johnny Campbell.


Best of luck to all in the B1k!
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danny900
Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:58:11 AM
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bjsjoel
Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2010 7:57:54 PM

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Kawasaki KLR650 i have that also in my garage...
Lloydy
Posted: Monday, September 06, 2010 6:56:02 AM
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Ah man, usually i don't post but for what its worth i'm gunna have a say.
There is way too much chest beating and back slapping on a lot of these sites, too much i did and we did and not enough about yes you can. Klr 650? why bloody not mate, if you like the bike and you think it can handle 1000 mile ride go for it, alot of good advise about watching out for the trucks and buggies because they won't look out for you, hopefully in the day you will see the chopper first and at night you can't miss the lights coming up behind you.
My advise for what its worth would be take a fresh 650 down there ( if thats what you really want to ride) pre run the whole track and do some setting up to get it to handle the best you can for your style and speed. Hook up with a pit service, Baja pits have a pit every 50 mile so forget a large fuel tank, keep your weight down and do all the stops, you are looking for a finish so it won't bother you doing every pit. If you know someone with a klr 650, doesn't matter what condition, get a lend of it and throw it in the back of your chase truck. Your chase team will also be your pre run team and will roughly know the track ( local help or help from Tim Morton would be price less on this) Rider has sat phone and so do chase team, if any thing goes wrong with bike you have 1 of everything on back of chase truck which hopefully is not too far away ( in some places it will not be able to get to you.)
The biggest thing is go down there and have fun, be very aware of what is going on around you in the race to stay safe, ride to your own ability, It sounds like it has always been a dream so, go for it.
Slow and steady and finish safe.
Bloody hell i hope this helps, i'm not readin back through it, i would probably erase it.
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